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The Problem With Impeachment, by Chris Hedges — Rise Up Times

Every single person who has their eye on the impeachment consideration should read this.  Chris Hedges knows EXACTLY where we, as a nation, are at right now.  I can see where the slick puppetmasters would like to offer up the easy target of Trump and keep doing business as usual.  The Democrats are pushing Biden HARD.  Biden is a piece of crap choice that has proven himself to be Mr. Handsy with females and an outright racist.  Bernie Sanders (only a year older than Biden), Elizabeth Warren, and I’m sure other Dems running would be better candidates than Biden.  I feel like the American people are like cattle, being led down a chute at a slaughterhouse — or a civil war — right now.  Please read Chris’ essay and and let me know your thoughts.

The Problem With Impeachment

Trump…will not go quietly into this good night. He will attempt to bring the whole rotten edifice down with him. And he may succeed.

via The Problem With Impeachment, by Chris Hedges — Rise Up Times

35 thoughts on “The Problem With Impeachment, by Chris Hedges — Rise Up Times

  1. Makes sense, though maybe overly extreme and dramatic. The basic message that Biden is a vanilla corporatist who will do nothing to change anything is on target however. Hillary was as well. Both are preferable to the madman we have now imo, though why we can’t aspire to better than either choice… 👻

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  2. Yes, Hedges gets passionate and distracts from his incisive commentary. Good description of him. Yes, better than Cheeto, but we only have to put up with Cheeto for another year or so. Impeach him and leave everything status quo isn’t going to fly for a lot of people and could literally start a civil war. We have from now until November to endorse a quality candidate instead of resting easy because we can vote for another lesser of two evils candidate. I feel we can aspire to a better choice than these two bozos.

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  3. I never throw my opinion on these things because I don’t like politics at all…and but here you go.

    With me…I dislike all politicians and don’t trust them. They all…both parties have turned this into a game where half the country is on one side and half is on the other. That is a dangerous thing to do. I don’t like extreme and both parties are extreme. It’s all about winning…they will not work with each other to benefit…us the people. They also generalize people. If you supported Obama you were a tree-hugging liberal and if you supported Trump you were a racist… which I know both and that is not true….not to generize a group of people.

    I know some people who would vote for Hitler if they were in their party of choice…they go strictly by that. Personally, an Independent would be nice but the other parties would not work with them.
    Meet the new boss…same as the old boss.

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  4. Max, I love what you say here and agree with every bit of it. We, the People, find ourselves being ground up within the dilemma. There is an old Chinese curse that goes: “May you live in interesting times.” Times are interesting now for sure and that is being kind.

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  5. Interesting article but very over the top and seems to be written no different than the verbal dramatic accusations flowing back and forth between Democrats and Republicans. I don’t consider it a reasoned article but very inflammatory. I agree with your comment to another person that with one year to go what is the point. Hold the election in 2020 and let the voters decide.

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  6. Thank you for your comment, Len. I agree on not impeaching, but I do think once he’s out of office he needs to be charged for his alleged criminal acts.

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  7. I’m in the anyone is better than Trump group. Of course no one is perfect, but despite all her many faults, Hillary would have been way better. I will vote for any candidate nominated by the Democrats, though Biden would never be my choice. You can’t tell me the Obama presidency was not 1000 times better than this one, despite its failings and disappointments. (K)

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  8. That is odd on my comment…it’s like in some places words were missing. ” know they would vote for Hitler” should have been… I know people who would vote for Hitler if they were in their party… Oh well anyway…I guess the point got across lol.

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  9. Well, I disagree with the article but I tend to think the suggestion that impeachment isn’t the right road is correct. Trump has done a number of things which are flagrant violations of law and political protocol that any other president before him would’ve been thrown out for before now. But, it seems like a foolish ploy when the Republicans rule the Senate and 2/3 would be needed to vote in favor of impeachment. Some decades back, Iimagine most republicans would’ve voted to do so, given the evidence, as they’d still have a President in charge, just not this one. But now loyalty to party seems to “trump” all else on both sides of aisle.
    I think problem is that it means the Democrats are going to spend the rest of this year , maybe a good chunk of 2020, talking about how bad Trump is. That doesn’t tell people anything new or change opinions at this point. They know 38% of public are diehard Trump fans who will always support him, about same amount is their “Base” who’ll vote for anyone at all to get rid of him. They need to be concentrating on the people in the middle (both politically and geographically…. they have to convert some of those “Swing” states back to have a chance, including your Michigan) and give them something to be excited about, a reason to want to vote FOR them as opposed to AGAINST Republicans. They may be wasting a whole lot of airtime to get that done by beating the dead horse.
    I’m no expert pundit but I think biden is too old and too prone to verbal gaffes to win although his policies might be palatable; Bernie is too old, too angry and now too infirm. Mayor Pete seems quite capable but I can’t imagine Middle America ever voting for an openly gay man. Which probably leaves Elizabeth Warren as their last great hope.

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  10. Obama was no saint but not nearly as malignant as this and the Dubya eras. The Democrats want to push another business-as-usual candidate on us because they know we’ll do anything to get out from under this neo-nazi, but I am praying that the people choose a candidate wisely.

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  11. Max, I just copied what you said earlier:
    “With me…I dislike all politicians and don’t trust them. They all…both parties have turned this into a game where half the country is on one side and half is on the other. That is a dangerous thing to do. I don’t like extreme and both parties are extreme. It’s all about winning…they will not work with each other to benefit…us the people. They also generalize people. If you supported Obama you were a tree-hugging liberal and if you supported Trump you were a racist… which I know both and that is not true….not to generize a group of people.

    I know some people who would vote for Hitler if they were in their party of choice…they go strictly by that. Personally, an Independent would be nice but the other parties would not work with them.
    Meet the new boss…same as the old boss.”

    Are you saying pieces have been edited out of it??? I truly hope that WP isn’t editing/censoring posts and comments. If there are pieces missing, please let me know and I will report this to WP and see what they say.

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  12. I just went back and read it…I swear to you this moring…I wish I would have copied it all. It was the first time I read it posted…I thought to myself…wow… a lot of words are missing. I will miss some words while typing now and then but this morning it made no sense. That is just strange

    I sound crazy I know….but I straight out copied and pasted the line from this morning “know they would vote for Hitler” and read it now… it doesn’t say that. I just wished I would have copied it all.

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  13. It is saying that here on the comments both times? If you have your site “monetized” they may be editing it for content? That’s one of the things in the fine print you agree to if you monetize your site, removing any content that sponsors might find offensive. If your site isn’t monetized, I’m not sure what’s going on…

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  14. I’m just glad I copied and pasted that line..so I know it’s not me. When I first read it this morning…it sounded liked a first grader wrote it.
    It may have just been a glitch I guess. Mine is not…I have no ads and I pay for mine.
    I’m going to see if it cached on my computer anywhere.

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  15. Oh what I originally typed is there right now…this morning it was not there when I posted that reply to you about it. It was almost unreadable this morning. I copied that one line from this morning that as you see…is not there in that wording.

    I’ve never seen such a strange thing on WP before. It is baffling. It’s fine now.

    I’m just calling it a glitch this morning….

    I do remember one line…”They all” was missing this morning. I at first thought…man was I drunk yesterday? It was that bad. It made no sense….but now it’s right.

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  16. I am just guessing with Biden’s problems and Sanders heart attack that she may just give it another run- she’s a Clinton and they don’t know the meaning of the word -no.

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  17. We now have early voting, but it’s only available in select locations. My regular place is a 10 minute walk, but the other location requires a subway ride. I’ll vote on election day.

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  18. I saw headlines this morning eluding to Hillary suggesting she might run. I thought she would’ve made a good prez, but not many seemed to (even the Democrats I knew largely said they voted for her just to avoid Trump, not because they thought she was a quality candidate). My thoughts on Bernie are not that he couldn’t do the job, just that he can’t win… at 79 at election time, and looking every day of it, he’ll seem too old to many (and you know Trump will play that up with some backhanded nickname for him that will catch on) and he doesn’t make the “personal connection”… time did a great feature on him a couple of months back, pointed out how he is not good on the glad-handing and stuff that makes up a lot of poltics. Like he’ll go into a city where GM closed a factory and rattle off the numbers – GM profits, bailout amounts, unemployment rates – but he won’t bring a single mother who is on Welfare now because she lost her good job there up on stage to talk, won’t pose for photos with his supporters afterwards. That kind of thing maybe shouldn’t matter, but it does in this day and age. I think he is well-suited to be a sort of “influencer” and use his backers to help shape policy of whomever they do pick to run.

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  19. I agree with everything you say here. At the same time, don’t you think the American public is tired of glib celebrities going through the motions? Anyone who has heard Bernie’s platform and looked at his illustrious history of voting knows he’s a person of integrity. Whatever happens, I hope the person elected, if not Bernie, is wise enough to consult and collaborate with him as an “influencer” as you call it.

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